Suture Express, a specialty surgical supplier offering wound closure products provides an example of living in a self-made storm. In the book, “Living in the Storm”, I wrote about the importance of creating joy and inspiration for yourself, and how it is often influenced by creating joy and inspiration for others. I addressed issues of honesty, integrity, and being apologetic when you have done wrong. I have since found a good example of how lies and trying to cover up mistakes causes more difficulty than benefit. My example is one which was set by Suture Express, and I hope that it is used as a good lesson.
Suture Express Apologetic Under Distress
Suture Express CFO, Brian Forsythe learned a difficult and avoidable lesson of breaking trust and giving a self-serving and money-induced apology instead of a timely and meaningful one. Apology for doing wrong is extremely important, but when it is for the wrong reason and postponed until necessitated by greed, it can cause a backlash … a very ugly backlash.
Suture Express Before the Lie
Brian Forsythe came to me as his friend, and as an accomplished web programmer, when Suture Express was in need of a moderately complex ecommerce website that would allow them to offer different prices for each customer. He outlined Suture Express’ needs and I provided an extremely low quotation of $35,000 for the work. Suture Express CEO, Ed Kuklenski purportedly had a friend who claimed would do it for under $5,000 so they contracted with that company to do the job. According to Brian Forsythe, after they spent $150,000 on the website that was to have cost $5,000, they knew Suture Express’ Ed Kuklenski had made a mistake. All of the sudden, my $35,000 fixed quotation was starting to seem like a good bargain … but not good enough just yet.
About a year later, when they found the Suture Express website failing miserably and receiving complaints from customers, they remembered to contact me in order to fix it. I was approached to produce a plan for fixing the existing problems and to provide marketing consultation to increase the website traffic and improve their branding. I spent valuable time working with the Suture Express executive team, and primarily Brian Forsythe, to develop a good plan to improve their marketing and technology. It appeared that I would finally get to help my friend, Brian, to build Suture Express’ business online.
Suture Express Lies
When Suture Express’ CFO, Brian Forsythe contracted with my company to fix the failing website, it all looked good at first. He signed a contract, and said the check was sent, so we moved forward with our work accordingly. Time passed, and the check from Suture Express never arrived. It was a lie, and Forsythe later admitted to his lie. This incident was described at greater length in a widely circulated article titled “Suture Express CFO Brian Forsythe Screws Wrong SEO“. A lie from a top executive of Suture Express is bad, but it was made even worse with an induced apology and an unreasonable bid to hide the truth of their misdealing.
Suture Express CFO Bids to Hide Truth
Less than a week ago, Brian Forsythe called me on the telephone and asked if I would meet with him. I said I would, and he asked if I could meet right away. In fact, he asked if I could meet that evening, only a few hours away. I told him I would, and so he drove to my town and we met over beers … for nine hours, until after three in the morning. We talked about a lot of things (obviously). He was profoundly apologetic, and asked me what Suture Express could do to make things right with me. We talked about business strategy for Suture Express, and things which had transpired. He told me that he would very much like to work with me to build their online presence and to make good for his lies and deceit.
Brian was very convincing in his apology, but yet, it had come swiftly on the tail of business consultants Suture Express had hired seeking to improve the value of Suture Express. It was made even more obvious by the influx of web traffic to my previous blog article about Suture Express from investment firms and law firms. It began to look pretty obvious how desperate Forsythe was in his apology when he made an offer to pay for the removal of the article. It is quite visible to the public, and all of the sudden Suture Express’ reputation mattered. He clearly wanted it to be gone, but he offered to pay only a fraction of what Suture Express was previously to pay for fixing the work of Ed Kuklenski. Then, to make it worse, they sent me a draft of a contract that they would like for me to present to them which stated that any derogatory statements from me would allow them to receive $150,000 from me per incident. Apparently that is where they valued a negative statement from me. They actually want to claim $150,000 for any instance of me telling the disparaging truth about what happened. At the same time, they wanted to pay me a fraction of what it was to have cost them to avoid the negative statement of truth about Suture Express in the first place … yes, and actually receive beneficial reputation management and valuable branding services. So if my truth hurts them by $150,000, but they want to pay me only $10,000 to hide my truth, it seems to me that Suture Express is trying to profit from negative attention with this proposed contract.
Suture Express Reputation Needs Help
Suture Express is clearly aware that their reputation matters. Otherwise Chief Financial Officer Brian Forsythe would not have come to me with his urgent plea. At the same time, it should be considered why Suture Express never found enough cause to apologize to me for the lies during the period of over a year before the article was published, nor for months after the article was reviewed and addressed by some of their staff. I never even heard from them after Suture Express employees and former contractors came forward to share their disgust of the treatment I had received.
It seems like a good lesson for taking timely action when doing wrong to others. In the case of Suture Express, it was only under scrutiny of others and with no reason beyond serving their own purpose, that they finally came to me with urgency to renounce the truth I had told about them. The apologies and near-convincingly sincere plea to work with Suture Express toward a resolution came only when there was enough financial loss or gain in the balance that they could no longer hold back their shame and just had to make apology. If you think this is pretty dirty, I agree with you. Apology forced by greed and that only serves the person giving the apology is not very genuine.
It gets much worse, and it is still unfolding in the active “Suture Express CFO Brian Forsythe Screws Wrong SEO” blog post.
The lesson to be heard is that giving apology should never be postponed until it only serves you. Give your apology sincerely and promptly if you want it to matter. Otherwise, it will cost you a lot more grief, and in business it will likely cost you a lot more money, too.
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Pingback by Suture Express Brian Forsythe Screws Wrong SEO — May 31, 2010 @ 2:55 am
I suppose I should make it clear that I have still never seen a check from Suture Express, and they still have the same dreadful website they spent $150,000 for (according to Brian Forsythe).
I was also told that they hired a search engine optimization company to help fix things. I guess we can see how that went. All it takes is a quick search for their company name … Suture Express.
Comment by Mark Aaron Murnahan — May 31, 2010 @ 3:35 am
“…any derogatory statements from me would allow them to receive $150,000 from me per incident.”
WARNING bells are going off somewhere…
Based on the track record of suture express and Brian Forsythe I’d say they are planning on screwing the wrong SEO over… again. You sign the contract, they reneg on their end (AGAIN) and then sue you for telling the truth about their newest shady/criminal activities – DISCLAIMER: I’m not a lawyer and I don’t play one on TV… this is just my opinion based on what has been published and something that my “gut” is telling me…
A thought just crossed my mind… PAY UP OR SHUT UP!!!
Companies like Suture Express & people like Brian Forsythe really MUST sincerely apologize for company and/or employee oversights, accidents, mistakes & out-right lies… and mean it. Then they would not have the MANY problems they face today with Consumer Backlash & extremely BAD PR… and negative posts showing up on Google… *hint, wink, nudge*
Fess Up & Make it Right. Don’t wait for the spotlight to uncover all your ugly mistakes. And especially don’t wait for TWO (& potentially more) “spotlight” listings on the 1st page of Google…
Dear Brian (& you peeps working for/with suture express), if you’re really serious about fixing this then pay the man what you owe him(including interest, would be nice) AND don’t ever screw with the man who knows SEO EVER again… AND PAY HIM REAL GOOD with NO CONDITIONS attached. Let Mark do what he’s good at.
Mom always said that honesty’s the best policy. Hopefully you’ve learned this lesson… the hard way… but then again… well, I always give people the benefit of the doubt so maybe, just maybe, you’ll do what’s right this time around.
[Sad thing is... the more truth that comes out the worse you guys look...]
Comment by Yoon Ho Um — May 31, 2010 @ 5:33 am
Thanks Yoon, that was well put. Somehow even with all their brilliance, Suture Express simply cannot find the definition of integrity.
Comment by Mark Aaron Murnahan — May 31, 2010 @ 11:33 am
These people at Suture Express seem to be a bit clueless… your SEO efforts are somewhat containable now… but wait until Murnahan unleashes Shock and Awe and hits up RipoffReport, Yelp and other social channels.
When it’s all said and done, I’d bet Murnahan can get 8 of the top 10 listings for Suture Express… they’d better wise up.
In the words of Samuel L Jackson…
Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!”
Comment by Travis Wright — May 31, 2010 @ 1:06 pm
That is hilarious, Travis. I don’t think I ever related a Pulp Fiction quote to my work.
I don’t want to unleash Shock and Awe just yet, but rather gather opinion and prove that I am not the only person who thinks it is unacceptable to walk on people like that.
Shock and Awe is the point when it will never go away and companies start thinking of new names.
Comment by Mark Aaron Murnahan — May 31, 2010 @ 1:36 pm
I think they need to read Travis’ stellar blog post: http://mobilelocalsocial.com/2010/vps-net-review-good-service-but-customer-service-nightmare-beware/
Especially this part:
“I wasn’t quite expecting the CEO to reach out, but this is a good sign. They are keeping track of their online reputation. This allows them to put out shitstorms, more effectively, more swiftly. Immediately shit-storm removal.”
Comment by Yoon Ho Um — May 31, 2010 @ 4:06 pm
Do they really expect anyone to take their company serious after this? Seriously?
It’s like a bad movie script, handed over to a bad director, who hired an awful casting person………You know, kind of like if Jim Carrey had tried to play Hannibal Lecter!
Comment by Verleen — June 1, 2010 @ 1:23 am
[...] This is not about Suture Express’ lies, or Suture Express CFO, Brian Forsythe. It is about having the guts to pull the trigger. [...]
Pingback by Sutures: Another Reason I Love and Hate Marketing — January 11, 2011 @ 3:31 am
Of course they do, because they don’t care on small complains, nobody knows about them, if the news was published in a newspaper than, they would be scared.
Comment by Andy — September 12, 2011 @ 7:57 am